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Student question:

Here’s a question and answer with one of my newer students. He’s been taking bootcamps from a well known company and guru but has found major roadblocks to his game so is now coming to me for advice. He hasn’t bootcamped with me so at first my knowledge and language assumes he has the basic knowledge I impart to my students and it’s obvious he is not there yet… But the end lesson is VERY important… as it’s one I see all the time these days with standard bootcamps and pua training that needs to be given…

Student: December 4 at 5:00pm Report

Hey Tech i no this isnt the place at where i should post questions for the udemy site but i couldnt find it on there and this is the one place i no ull read and consider 🙂 But oky back to the question:

A friend and I have been wondering something for a good while already. Its only happend to us a few times and when it did either they turned into a lady friend or you seriously feel like she was strongly emotional invested. The question is about “creating an emotional connection.” In my experiance, out of the numerous of sets that ive done, ive only truly experianced it for only about 3 times and i seriously do not know how i did it. Ona side note, it happend only within a matter of minuets so i know theres something there i just do not no. The situation resulted in the girl genuinely having strong feelings for me and i could seriously tell he emtional connection was there. So if u could explain the concept, how its done, and a few routines and/or examples that you use or simple stuff we could immediately apply for our improvement. Thanks Tech hope to hear from ya!

TEch December 4 at 5:09pm

Well the answer to that question really depends on one thing. The woman. Every woman connects differently. The key here is the reason you don’t know how you did it was you did not know how to calibrate that she was connecting. And if you only had it happen three times, you are using outer game that is not congruent with who you are… you should be connecting every time if you truly like the women. Now is there a gambit to this? You already know them. But you have been using them to try to eek out attraction rather than listening to gather a connection. Otherwise you wouldn’t be missing on the connection signals. We all read ioi’s. But can you read the trance signs where a woman is going into her head and connecting to you? that is more the hypnotic speed seduction stuff.

have you done manny the martian yet? because it’s how you learn IOI’s and connection trance points. You put out a nonsensical opener and watch how the woman’s channels open up to allow deeper connection.

How to do this from a pua standpoint? learn her anchor words (style’s eliciting values) And send those words back to her in anchored conversation.

Women connect when their subconscious connects. This takes the higher level teaching I give you. If you are on my free udemy stuff, watch the lecture number 3 on hypnotic change and the explanation about women. A woman feels connection when you hit her subconscious triggers of what is attractive and what she needs. You only learn if you are connecting if I can show you in 3d a woman who is connecting. She will give eye tracking visual cues and she will act differently when she is going into trance. This one is impossible to do as a message and just needs me to show you, because you can’t even do the education on dvd.

Student December 6 at 12:54am Report

Woa….. Oky Tech no offense, but a good 70 percent on what you said went way over my head. Ya this feels very advance. The only thing i can really explain (and i hope im not drifting subjects) is when i watch other (also read some of field reports just as some of yours posted) MPUAs infield.

When i see them run game it seems like majority of the sets that they run really hit well. And when they choose their target very quikly something happends and u can see the “click” between the two. And to me, since they do it alot it sort of comes off as a skill or somthing they “know.” Its as if the girl they are in interaction with, makes the “big” decision in her wanting him and hes somehow done something to “make” that decision happen. So is it a skill?? I dunno what to think of it.

Its kind of like in the situation in the book INFLUENCE by robert caldini (hopefully you read it) where in the consistany and commitment chapter with the Lady and the raddy old loser boyfriend. Where when she leaves but he begs for her back and he promises to change, but doesnt change at all and she ends up MORE committed to him than ever because she made a choice. Similar to a situation where you make a final choice and bet on a horse and all of a sudden you believe with all your heart he is going to win.

So i dunno for me since its happened so rarely and for you Mpuas so often feels like theres somthing else going on. Whether its you guys no ur aware of or not.

Tech December 6 at 1:10am

It’s investment. The click is where you’ve shown value, you’ve listened to her talk about herself then invest in you. In the investment she has made a commitment and so will stick with you more.

Here’s my base analogy.

You have 2 toy cars. You can only choose one.
Car #1: A robotic lego car that is already put together for you or
Car #2: A pinewood derby car you and your father put together together when you were 6 years old.

Although the inherent value in car#1, car#2 has more value due to the investment. So the woman and man clicking is the investment point. SHe has decided to qualify, and in doing so the man tells her he likes her for her true qualities (he has to listen to her to know her true qualities!).

So most likely you aren’t giving the woman any chance… or reason… to invest in you and that makes all the difference in the “Clicking”

Student December 6 at 1:23am Report

ohh oky so the real “click” is the appreciation for the qualities that she wants to be appreciated for? And this all happends in the qualification process??
So if i use a qualifier and she qualifies herself but the proper emtional investment that is supposed to go with the qualifier isnt there means i needa basically DHV more and try again??
So in essence the reason why the MPUAs usually always get that “click” is because u demenstrate value enough to where she WILL give the proper emotional investment??

Tech December 6 at 1:34am

YOU GOT IT! Most gurus don’t know how to teach that though. However here’s the deal. If she is qualifying, she is investing. most students neg the shit out of a woman while she is qualifying… and they lose her because they don’t realize she is doing it.

When a woman is qualifying with “I make orgasmic brownies” you have to allow her investment to pay off. It’s as simple as saying, “Oh My God that is so cool! I may just consider you girlfriend material based on how you can cook brownies.” Thats where most puas are most miscalibrated. after all the disqualifying and negging he’s doing, he forgets to tell her he likes her in some way shape or form.

Student December 6 at 1:58am Report

Ahhh oky. Makes sense now. But oky ive run into a situation before were ive ran a qualifier and appreciated it but situation occured like your example above were i made a statement afterwards similar to, “I may just consider you girlfriend material based on how you can cook brownies” sometimes it comes off “jokingly” cuz im usually very high energetic when in im infield. Does that effect it if she doesnt receive the proper message eventho shes already qualified herself??
Btw side note….. Im not too much of a neg or disqualify person, I cant rele explain but im just high energy, fun, and playful. I pump alotta buying temperature and basically only purely focus on making sure shes at least FEELING something. So with that being sed i dont rele have any routines cuz it feels like it takes away from genuineality, like i only thing i consistanly use is the high five spin move lol. So i dunno if that effects anything at all.

Tech December 6 at 2:10am

Yes it does… because if you are ONLY the high energy, fun, playful guy, you are eventually just annoying… (It’s the central flaw of mystery method and ghost and flame game). If you feel that’s all you are, you become the annoying guy at some point. Women want a guy who can shift gears when the right time comes along, and the statement of intent (You are cool for brownies) IS that point where you should slow down.

If you read gambler’s book on natural seduction, he talks of 3 characters of seduction. Mystery method game teaches flash and high energy game well. That is “Mr. Social”. Mr. comfort has to slow things down and stop the high energy game. Mr. Seduction has to turn both off and be sexual. You can’t be high energy and comforting or high energy and sexual. you just can’t and the woman will find you tedious.

If it is coming off jokingly you are coming off insincere and her investment feels bad to her. She spent that time qualifying to you and your statement of intent becomes a disqualifier. The LAST thing she needs.

Here’s an example of what you are doing. Have you ever been at a party and a guy tells a few jokes and he’s really good. He has the whole crowd in his hand. But that’s all he’s got, so he keeps telling more and more jokes. And even more. The crowd starts feeling he is try hard and not able to be serious. Not able to connect. Because he uses humor to shield himself from ever making a connection.

Guys like you who say “I’m high energy, fun, playful” miss the fine line of when to shift gears down to slowing down the interaction in comfort and making connections and truly being impressed by a woman’s qualifying. If you come off joking, you’ve just told her she’s not good enough for you to shift gears and truly get to know her.

“I basically purely focus on making sure she’s at least feeling something.”

Um. The Social Arts are about making connections and dating or having sex. Not solely making a woman feel something. If that’s what you “Purely focus on” you are focusing on the wrong thing. YOu are looking for validation through reaction. Stop that. Look for connection. If you were looking for that you would know when to shift gears. If you are looking for her to feel something, you keep throwing flame game without ever stopping and you are purely focusing on miscalibration.

Student dialogue

Student question:
Here’s a question and answer with one of my newer students. He’s been taking bootcamps from a well known company and guru but has found major roadblocks to his game so is now coming to me for advice. He hasn’t bootcamped with me so at first my knowledge and language assumes he has the basic knowledge I impart to my students and it’s obvious he is not there yet… But the end lesson is VERY important… as it’s one I see all the time these days with standard bootcamps and pua training that needs to be given…

Student: December 4 at 5:00pm Report
Hey Tech i no this isnt the place at where i should post questions for the udemy site but i couldnt find it on there and this is the one place i no ull read and consider 🙂 But oky back to the question:

A friend and I have been wondering something for a good while already. Its only happend to us a few times and when it did either they turned into a lady friend or you seriously feel like she was strongly emotional invested. The question is about “creating an emotional connection.” In my experiance, out of the numerous of sets that ive done, ive only truly experianced it for only about 3 times and i seriously do not know how i did it. Ona side note, it happend only within a matter of minuets so i know theres something there i just do not no. The situation resulted in the girl genuinely having strong feelings for me and i could seriously tell he emtional connection was there. So if u could explain the concept, how its done, and a few routines and/or examples that you use or simple stuff we could immediately apply for our improvement. Thanks Tech hope to hear from ya!

TEch December 4 at 5:09pm
Well the answer to that question really depends on one thing. The woman. Every woman connects differently. The key here is the reason you don’t know how you did it was you did not know how to calibrate that she was connecting. And if you only had it happen three times, you are using outer game that is not congruent with who you are… you should be connecting every time if you truly like the women. Now is there a gambit to this? You already know them. But you have been using them to try to eek out attraction rather than listening to gather a connection. Otherwise you wouldn’t be missing on the connection signals. We all read ioi’s. But can you read the trance signs where a woman is going into her head and connecting to you? that is more the hypnotic speed seduction stuff.

have you done manny the martian yet? because it’s how you learn IOI’s and connection trance points. You put out a nonsensical opener and watch how the woman’s channels open up to allow deeper connection.

How to do this from a pua standpoint? learn her anchor words (style’s eliciting values) And send those words back to her in anchored conversation.

Women connect when their subconscious connects. This takes the higher level teaching I give you. If you are on my free udemy stuff, watch the lecture number 3 on hypnotic change and the explanation about women. A woman feels connection when you hit her subconscious triggers of what is attractive and what she needs. You only learn if you are connecting if I can show you in 3d a woman who is connecting. She will give eye tracking visual cues and she will act differently when she is going into trance. This one is impossible to do as a message and just needs me to show you, because you can’t even do the education on dvd.

Student December 6 at 12:54am Report
Woa….. Oky Tech no offense, but a good 70 percent on what you said went way over my head. Ya this feels very advance. The only thing i can really explain (and i hope im not drifting subjects) is when i watch other (also read some of field reports just as some of yours posted) MPUAs infield.

When i see them run game it seems like majority of the sets that they run really hit well. And when they choose their target very quikly something happends and u can see the “click” between the two. And to me, since they do it alot it sort of comes off as a skill or somthing they “know.” Its as if the girl they are in interaction with, makes the “big” decision in her wanting him and hes somehow done something to “make” that decision happen. So is it a skill?? I dunno what to think of it.

Its kind of like in the situation in the book INFLUENCE by robert caldini (hopefully you read it) where in the consistany and commitment chapter with the Lady and the raddy old loser boyfriend. Where when she leaves but he begs for her back and he promises to change, but doesnt change at all and she ends up MORE committed to him than ever because she made a choice. Similar to a situation where you make a final choice and bet on a horse and all of a sudden you believe with all your heart he is going to win.

So i dunno for me since its happened so rarely and for you Mpuas so often feels like theres somthing else going on. Whether its you guys no ur aware of or not.

Tech December 6 at 1:10am
It’s investment. The click is where you’ve shown value, you’ve listened to her talk about herself then invest in you. In the investment she has made a commitment and so will stick with you more.

Here’s my base analogy.

You have 2 toy cars. You can only choose one.
Car #1: A robotic lego car that is already put together for you or
Car #2: A pinewood derby car you and your father put together together when you were 6 years old.

Although the inherent value in car#1, car#2 has more value due to the investment. So the woman and man clicking is the investment point. SHe has decided to qualify, and in doing so the man tells her he likes her for her true qualities (he has to listen to her to know her true qualities!).

So most likely you aren’t giving the woman any chance… or reason… to invest in you and that makes all the difference in the “Clicking”

Student December 6 at 1:23am Report
ohh oky so the real “click” is the appreciation for the qualities that she wants to be appreciated for? And this all happends in the qualification process??
So if i use a qualifier and she qualifies herself but the proper emtional investment that is supposed to go with the qualifier isnt there means i needa basically DHV more and try again??
So in essence the reason why the MPUAs usually always get that “click” is because u demenstrate value enough to where she WILL give the proper emotional investment??

Tech December 6 at 1:34am
YOU GOT IT! Most gurus don’t know how to teach that though. However here’s the deal. If she is qualifying, she is investing. most students neg the shit out of a woman while she is qualifying… and they lose her because they don’t realize she is doing it.

When a woman is qualifying with “I make orgasmic brownies” you have to allow her investment to pay off. It’s as simple as saying, “Oh My God that is so cool! I may just consider you girlfriend material based on how you can cook brownies.” Thats where most puas are most miscalibrated. after all the disqualifying and negging he’s doing, he forgets to tell her he likes her in some way shape or form.

Student December 6 at 1:58am Report
Ahhh oky. Makes sense now. But oky ive run into a situation before were ive ran a qualifier and appreciated it but situation occured like your example above were i made a statement afterwards similar to, “I may just consider you girlfriend material based on how you can cook brownies” sometimes it comes off “jokingly” cuz im usually very high energetic when in im infield. Does that effect it if she doesnt receive the proper message eventho shes already qualified herself??

Btw side note….. Im not too much of a neg or disqualify person, I cant rele explain but im just high energy, fun, and playful. I pump alotta buying temperature and basically only purely focus on making sure shes at least FEELING something. So with that being sed i dont rele have any routines cuz it feels like it takes away from genuineality, like i only thing i consistanly use is the high five spin move lol. So i dunno if that effects anything at all.

Tech December 6 at 2:10am
Yes it does… because if you are ONLY the high energy, fun, playful guy, you are eventually just annoying… (It’s the central flaw of mystery method and ghost and flame game without guidance). If you feel that’s all you are, you become the annoying guy at some point. Women want a guy who can shift gears when the right time comes along, and the statement of intent (You are cool for brownies) IS that point where you should slow down.

If you read gambler’s book on natural seduction, he talks of 3 characters of seduction. Mystery method game teaches flash and high energy game well. That is “Mr. Social”. Mr. comfort has to slow things down and stop the high energy game. Mr. Seduction has to turn both off and be sexual. You can’t be high energy and comforting or high energy and sexual. you just can’t and the woman will find you tedious.

If it is coming off jokingly you are coming off insincere and her investment feels bad to her. She spent that time qualifying to you and your statement of intent becomes a disqualifier. The LAST thing she needs. It’s the same feeling you get where you invest money on a new pick up product only to find that the packaging and ads were nice, but it’s only a book of openers that are rehashed. SHE invested in you, and you gave her back a negative feeling. And ioi begets an IOI right?

Here’s an example of what you are doing. Have you ever been at a party and a guy tells a few jokes and he’s really good. He has the whole crowd in his hand. But that’s all he’s got, so he keeps telling more and more jokes. And even more. The crowd starts feeling he is try hard and not able to be serious. Not able to connect. Because he uses humor to shield himself from ever making a connection.

Guys like you who say “I’m high energy, fun, playful” miss the fine line of when to shift gears down to slowing down the interaction in comfort and making connections and truly being impressed by a woman’s qualifying. If you come off joking, you’ve just told her she’s not good enough for you to shift gears and truly get to know her.

“I basically purely focus on making sure she’s at least feeling something.”

Um. The Social Arts are about making connections and dating or having sex. Not solely making a woman feel something. If that’s what you “Purely focus on” you are focusing on the wrong thing. YOu are looking for validation through reaction. Stop that. Look for connection. If you were looking for that you would know when to shift gears. If you are looking for her to feel something, you keep throwing flame game without ever stopping and you are purely focusing on miscalibration.

Avatar basics: or how to avoid chode wear and look like a Jersey shore puke fest

Avatar basics:

AVATAR and best dressing practices

It seems many guys don’t have the foundational info on avatar based on what I’m seeing at lair meetings, student wear, and the arguing that went on with Betzi when she was giving solid advice at our avatar training at her store. More questions have come up with the black friday and christmas sales that are ongoing recently and the wealth of clothing that is bargain priced.

In response I am presenting this adapted info from askmen.com that I have compiled. Askmen.com is a wonderful place to learn how to keep your look fresh and clean and attractive. Well over time, I compiled the following tips.

1. You must dress for your body type. As important you must avoid certain styles to make your look as clean and stylish as possible without accentuating the negatives in your body.

2. Fit is the key, and most guys were baggy ass clothing. Well fitting clothes will at first feel tighter on your body because you aren’t used to them at first.

3. No matter how much you spend, if it doesn’t fit it still looks like shit. Expensive clothes have NOTHING to do with good fit. i.e. look at all the chodes wearing baggy 250 dollar polo shirts.

4. there are LOTS of inexpensive aka “Cheap” clothes that will accentuate what looks good about your bod and hide what you don’t like. (Rugged Wearhouse has been my clothing heaven for 2 years now).

Now down and dirty body-type lessons:

Bulky/overweight/husky men:

1. Absolutely NO horizontal stripes. If you need an example see the movie “The blind side”

    a. This accentuates your belly/stomach area. JUST DONATE ALL THE SHIRTS WITH THIS DESIGN.

2. Avoid diagonal stripes too. Same concept and diagnonal doesn’t make it any better.

3.  Vertical stripes are AWESOME. Pinstripes work well. They elongate your torso and silhouette. Corduroy has same effect. It’s why PUA instructors advise overweight men to wear pinstripe suits.

4. No double vented jackets: Draws too much attention to a big butt. (Sight lines go right down the back with the vents.

5. Single or no vent suit jackets are best for overweight men.

6. If you are purchasing a designed t shirt, make sure the design is on the chest or shoulders, not the abdomen to remove any staring or visual scanning of the abdomen and reduce noticing of the enlarged belly. If the whole shirt is flashy, it just brings attention to your upper body which makes the woman notice your enlarged belly. Smaller prints with spread out designs above the abdomen are best.

7. Fit should be neither too tight nor too baggy. Both make you look larger. PErfect fit (As Betzi taught us as Dapper) is what is needed. Room to move but no extra crinkles.

8. Singular solid colors = better than contrasting colors

    I.E. that means darker top and bottoms or light top and bottoms together make you look slimmer than having contrasting color schemes. (Bright white shirt and dark pants, or dark shirt and bright pants) The less separation of top and bottom parts of your body the better to slim your appearance, so monochrome transitions are best. This also explains why untucking your shirt and not wearing a belt will allow you to look slimmer: More flow from top to bottom. All black works best for slimming effect. I tend to adorn jewelry more or put on accessories as well as buy dark black shirts with small adornments (Colored thread, lapel and cuff enhancements) to break up boring black.

9. No neck wear/turtlenecks

Makes you look like you have a shorter neck which equals fatter in the eyes of women.

10. Better collars if overweight: V-neck makes neck look longer and takes vision away from double chinsWear a belt
A belt will nip in your waistline and make it appear slimmer. Just be
sure not to make it so tight that you have a belly overhang.

Tall and skinny men

1. No vertical stripes: Reduces your bulk and makes you look overly thin and weak

2. Wear horizontal stripes to bulk you up a bit. Best is single stripes across the chest horizontally to flatter and make shoulders look Broader

3. Avoid monochrome/single color: Create contrast to break up bottom and top

Thinner guys have more fun create contrast with more colors of shirts.

4. Layer shirts to make you look more bulky.

5. Avoid round-toe shoes. Square toed shoes Make you look more proportioned.

6. Stay away from skinny jeans unless you are going for the anorexic rocker look. Straight/bootcut jeans will work best

7. Choose lighter colors to make you appear larger,

Short guys

1. Wear square-toed shoes to look professional and taller

Pointy shoes do work if your pants cover most of your shoe, but if not you can get a look of a clown

2. Wear heels on your shoes or elevating shoes that don’t look bulky.

Some boots are designed to hide a large elevator that can give you 4 inches of height or more.

3. If you wear elevating shoes, make sure your pants can handle the extra height.

4. Accessories:

Accentuate areas away from the torso so that they pay less attention to stature. For instance, necklaces, ties, hats. Try the hats that add height that the rock and movie stars are wearing.

5. Design:

Avoid really big prints because they will make a smaller body look smaller. Smaller prints or small print designs throughout the clothing work best. In fact overall the design should be congruent with your body size. (Small prints for shorter guys, medium for medium height, large for taller guys.

6. Jeans: Rise: The smaller the better. If you don’t know what the rise is go to Betzi at Dapper house of style. The rise in your pants is the distance between the crotch of your
pants and the waistband. Shorter men should wear the smallest rise in
their pants that they can get away with (In other words the most snug without hurting your family jewels) because a short rise will elongate your lines and make you look taller. A really long rise
will make you look like you have a flat but, even backwards butt, as well as making what you’ve got in front look nonexistent. A short rise will make your legs look longer,  and avoid making your crotch and
butt area look baggy and devoid of girth… very unattractive

7. Shorter = Choose a slimmer necktie. Fat ties make your body look small in proportion and you take a clown-like appearance.

Other general rules: Use a tailor. Lee’s at the 1st floor of Crabtree Valley Mall across from Kanki has been my savior many a time. I fall in love with a shirt or pants and can’t make it work in it’s current fit? They do their magic in 3 days. I had a high-end jacket with a skull design in the back that I wanted for the playboy mansion since it was so unique. They did the work in 4 days and the arms and shoulders sit perfectly and I was the hit of the party with such unique clothing.

H and M, abercrombie, american eagle. Although inexpensive, brands such as these are easily sniffed out by women.

Classic clean looks last longer than fad-based fashion, so That’s why Dapper is more on my radar, and rarely is Runway because their clothing is more fad based than classic fit and style. Classic can last me 3-4 years after a huge investment vs 1 year on fad-based fashion. (I wish I learned that before buying any affliction, but at at least I bought them from rugged wearhouse for 10 bucks each rather than 90 each retail)

Screen your fashion consultants. Is their advice all about selling you the product and incongruent? Or is their advice solid advice that always makes you look good? Do they pull sale items as well as retail price? That’s why I can endorse Betzi. Her pride in her work shows. She NEVER wants to be embarrassed when someone says where they got their clothes.

My fave stores: Dapper House of Style, Runway, Buckle, Rugged Wearhouse. None of the people or stores mentioned here have given me commission to mention them.

Tech

 

Seated Two Sets lecture

Hey guys!
I just completed a lecture on Udemy.com based on TJ’s student question. He wanted to know my basic style for seated sets. http://www.udemy.com/asset/28913/seated-sets-a-students-question.html

Now TJ is asking because he has actually witnessed one of my seated two set openers on a rooftop club this summer and wondered how I did it so smoothly and got the number in 5 minutes from an hb8 chemist. 2 other students witnessed me at  a local cocktail lounge open a seated 3 set of 3 hb10’s that we found out consisted of a stripper/cocktail waitress/model. They fought over closing me that evening and  it led to me spending two evening with the exotic dancer. This set eventually led to some of my social proof at the local exotic dancer clubs as well, leading to wingman Dionysus dating one of the exotic dancers there. I am still in the social group with these three women! In fact they bring women to me all the time to date if they have never had orgasm too knowing my ability to do no-touch orgasms but that is another story. (See david shade’s products at my website http://masterpickupartists.com for that info on what I do. His “Advanced sexual hypnosis” product is money).

Anyhow, NO I don’t make the woman stand up and spin then I sit down LOL. That still works, but once someone sees that they will amog you as a pickup artist.

Anyhow discuss the lecture on udemy and let me know what you think.

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