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I’ve met Adam Lyons and his Wife Amanda at the PUA World Summit and he’s an overall good guy and great speaker. He has a youtube series to help you get your game in order with some new concepts. Check out the video below and tell me what you think!
How many times has a woman told you, “I have a boyfriend”? If you are even reading this blog it’s more than likely a bazillion times and prior to game you had no tools to handle it. Now I have many frame changes, the best coming from Speed Seduction such as, “You don’t have to prove to me that SOMEBODY finds you attractive. That’s not what I’ll base my decision about you.”
However how many times has an MPUA taught you about THIS statement from a woman. “I don’t have a boyfriend.” How many times have you heard that and just passed it by? How many times have you heard that and thought, “Oh, I have a chance! Gotta get my game on!”
Now if your game is good and tight, how many of you heard this and heard, “She’s asking me out. Right here. Right now.”
Think about it. You’ve heard a million bazillion times, “I have a boyfriend” and are now learning ways to plow through that social program, especially when she’s using it as a shield from the 1000 opens she gets a week. But now you heard “I don’t have a boyfriend.” A woman who states that already feels comfort with you. She is putting it out there. And in that one moment is telling you you are a candidate. If you weren’t she wouldn’t say it. She would keep the “I have a boyfriend” in her pocket to use if you became creepy. It is such a profound thing that many gurus forget to teach their students. If she mentions she doesn’t have a boyfriend, you have the invitation to create the serendipitous “It just happened” moment.
Now does that mean you become a sleazeball and start hitting on her heavily? NO! She still wants the seduction of a master pickup artist. The statement, “I don’t have a boyfriend” is the wide open invitation however, and you are a candidate in a sea ful of buyers and beggars and afc’s.
It hit me and Joe D how huge a paradox this is, but nobody ever mentions it. For most guys the statement is passed over. Glossed over. Ignored for the true framing going on here. She is framing you as a guy that she feels it’s important to tell that she is not in a relationship.
This week I was told by 2 different exotic dancers that they no longer have boyfriends. They made a point of mentioning it. They made sure it was on my facebook wall. They haven’t even changed their relationship status. DON’T PASS UP THE OBVIOUS. THE OBVIOUS STATEMENTS WOMEN GIVE YOU. If you are too much in your head thinking about what to say next or gaming, you will miss the “Come get me” statements women make.
For instance, I have one student who I talked to for 2 hours on his text game technique. I could have forwarded him to two of my colleagues “Text game” manuals. However his problems wasn’t his text game. He was so much in his head about how to text her perfectly to get her to bed, that he missed her obvious statement to take her to bed. He was at a club with her, she asked him to take her home. HE MISSED THE OBVIOUS. She wanted to go home with him to screw his intestines and pancreas out. But he was worried about gaming her right that he got angry for something minor and didn’t take her home. DUH! I did a virtual head smack by phone and told him to claim his birthright. The reason she started acting bitchy was that he was still gaming her after she said for him to drive him home. GIRLS DON’T USUALLY FLAT OUT TELL YOU THEY WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH YOU. They will blatantly tell you in their ways. She said take me home later. My women said, “I DON’T have a boyfriend.” If she looks at your, raises her eyebrows sensually, and looks at your crotch full well knowing you are catching her in the act, that too is stating the obvious.
In speed seduction, that patterns and the language are parts of the method. But LISTENING and WATCHING for her to go to that naughty part of her mind while thinking of you is one of the golden key’s of learning it. Many times I get a guy who bootcamped from another company and he got trained to be another character, and to have gambits, and to paste a whole bunch of horseshit on himself only to find out he is only clouding his vision even further. FUCK THAT. Quiet your mind and become a keen observer. That way when a woman makes it heavily clear she doesn’t have a boyfriend, when she uses the boyfriend line every day 1000 times a week, you can CLEARLY hear what she is saying to YOU. “You have a chance big boy. Come and get it.” Quiet your mind. Train to focus on her language and when her body language tells you she is ready for you and you can get rid of half the bullshit teaching that people are paying 3000 bucks for a weekend for. Meditation is free.
With this realization “I don’t have a boyfriend” should be just as much a happy trigger for you as “I have a boyfriend” was a negative trigger in the past.
Now go out and LISTEN.
The “Wire Monkey Guy” is my term for students who came out of poor nurturing environments: environments where there were poorly trained parents, institutionalized care, or poor comfort and touch in relationships. A recent student of mine for dating coaching was one of these guys who many times pose a very serious challenge to teaching the social arts.
He immediately ejected from set. He did not like being touched by a massage therapist with lotion as it brought up severe discomfort. He did not like people touching his shoulders. His Kinesthetic touch was very choppy and quick, and had an overall quality of “attacking” towards the woman. Overall his approach and inability to be touched as well as to touch was not very soothing to any woman. Almost like Mark Zuckerberg in the movie “The Social Network” when Facebook hit 1,000,000 members. He wouldn’t hug Napster’s creator Shawn Fanning.
Getting back to this student of the social arts… his background was he was adopted from an Eastern European country at the age of 6, and was in Eastern European-type orphanages up until that point. If you ever saw the movie “Oliver!” or read Oliver Twist by Charles Dickens, it was very much like that orphanage without the heavy labor. Not much cuddling. Not much comforting. In other words, he grew up at first in the wire monkey environment.
What do I mean by the Wire Monkey? If you are familiar with basic psychology education, Harry Harlow created a set of experiments with Baby Rhesus monkeys in which some had a wire mother, some had a terry cloth mother, and some had a bottle to give food, and some didn’t. The experiment showed that babies “raised” by the wire monkey had difficulty dealing with stressful situations and did not have an ability to find comfort during them, whereas the ones raised by the terry cloth mother coped better with stressful situations. Rhesus monkeys with the wire mother would hunch on the ground and show some psychotic behaviors when stressed, whereas the monkeys with the terry cloth mother knew to go to that mother, cling, and then venture. They had better coping skills. They cuddled and stroked. The wire monkey babies were nervous demonstrating some psychotic behaviors. The experiment overall showed the importance of comfort and companionship in social and cognitive development. One ultimate lesson was that institutionalized child care has failures in developing well-adjusted children to well adjusted adults in comparison to having adoptive parents.
So our student was raised in a wire monkey environment. Now most of us in the pickup game are introverts that had a hard time talking to strangers and that’s a hard enough obstacle to get through psychologically. This guy had that, plus a difficulty with intimacy and in finding comfort during stress and with women, especially with touch.
Now my first recommendation to this student was therapy for his difficulties with touch and intimacy because that will definitely need to be dealt with. The TV show “The Pick Up Artist” Season 2 Episode 4 had a sexologist named Erin who helped the men overcome their fears of touching a woman. Men who grow up in wire monkey environments will likely benefit from such therapy to overcome their fears of intimate touch. The American Board of Sexologists lists, by state, local sexologists who can help people with these issues. The advice of a family doctor, psychiatrist, hypnotherapist, or a psychologist familiar with these issues could also benefit as well.
However I also taught him it was ok to have these issues because they are human issues. He was lucky enough to have loving adoptive parents and a large adopted family to help nurture him afterward from the age of 6 up. Also, social game does not require touch, just being playful and confident and learning how to talk without freezing up or the need for perfection. We know no touch is needed to converse because many a guru has found himself “KINO” in order to remind his students to add kinesthetic touch to his interactions.
We started out on day one getting him out in field to see what happened. First he got nervous and angry that the venue wasn’t large and full. Very strict game definitions were in his head for the “perfect” place to meet women. I did a 3 second countdown and he had all the anchors of stopping and cessation of speech due to a need to be perfect. He had read for 2 years way too much pickup material without applying it in field and it was all in his head in a jumbled mess because he never really put it into action. Plus he had not seen someone who actually knew what he was doing use the stuff he was reading about. He got into his head. Finally he decided after investment (And one of my mind release techniques) that he didn’t care about outcome and opened a group of people by talking over his shoulder. “Who lies more? Men or women.” He had read game for 2 years for this moment. They answered! “Women.” “Ok, who cheats more.” “MEN.”
He succeeded in opening… a country music star. But without much experience “in the field” he ejected telling me he ran out of things to say.
Well me and my wingmen continued with talking with the woman and got her phone number. Despite being the guy who got us into the conversation, he avoided the rest of it. The wire monkey student continued to roam around and get into his head. We later went to a men’s club and the neck-massage girl touched his neck and back and he got angry. He was obviously uncomfortable with touch and eventually also complained that lotion is too disturbing to be placed on his neck by a woman. “Whoa” I thought. There is a lot going on here.
I told him it’s ok, that therapy was needed and it was normal to go through it, but more importantly that it’s ok to tell women that he has this going on and that he’s working on it. Women are wonderful. They are accommodating. A guy who up front tells them he has some issues with touch that HE IS WORKING ON is vastly more attractive than a guy who hides one issue. He didn’t realize what I told him was true until day two of our bootcamp.
After a hypnosis session he was on fire. In one venue he opened 30 groups of people to talk… all the sets in the venue. Correction: All the hottest sets in the venue. The next venue: He opened the hottest professional model in town with success. All of his opens were successful. Next we needed to teach him something to say afterward and to continue creating discomfort in himself by staying in the conversation and interaction as long as he could, with touching the women.
During lecture time he continued to go into his head and freeze. Even with the best NLP techniques, he still froze up even if he made small breakthroughs. Comfort was just not in his vocabulary for himself or his game and the wire monkey had a lot to do with it.
The next day he was excited. Hypnosis. Then opening. More relaxed. And he opened less sets and vowed to stay in longer.
I got a text today. He got into a natural conversation with two women with ease. He did a stare contest and guessed where the women were from. He had command of the conversation. He was relaxed the entire time, and was in the conversation for 15 minutes, remaining comfortable.
He still has issues with touch. But with social skills and the truth, he will have many women to help him and work on his issues with the wire monkey upbringing he was unfortunate enough to grow up with. With some therapy from a sexologist, this guy will be social, AND have his intimacy issues improving. More importantly, owning his situation and being able to tell the right women his vulnerability with touch will make them that much more endeared to him and his situation that they will accommodate him. He is after all a soldier as well and deserves to have relationships for all the sacrifices he’s made for our country.
So in conclusion the above is mentioned just to show that even men from the hardest of backgrounds can become fun, playful, and social. They can also be directed to the resources they need to improve their lives and be more whole. Every man deserves this, especially one who has survived as long as him and who is a hero of the American Military. Many a master pickup artist has given up on these guys because of these backgrounds. By showing them the way, they don’t have to live a life of stress and discomfort in social situations.
If you know someone who has grown up in un-nurturing environments or who has significant intimacy issues, make sure they know that there is some help out there rather than allowing them to live a frustrated, lonely life. Training in the Social Arts under a well-trained instructor provides the ability to talk to members of the opposite sex. Coupled with sexual therapy, the Wire Monkey guy can become his best self, no longer unsure of how to handle human contact. He can become that other guy who is successful in life and with women.
OK guys. I have been doing online game ever since I did my first “recon” profile from David M’s teachings. I’ve been doing it for a while and one of my long term relationships is from online game. But I have to tell you something. BravoPUA’s online game program has just blown me the fuck away. Here’s why. (And this is being disclosed to you WITHOUT any affiliation or commission from the pua or his product). Bravo was slated as the speaker at the reunion we were supposed to have last weekend and he was going to disclose this stuff to us but we did not have the reunion at this time.
Here’s the low down. I just got access to the forum last night. In it you get a video on online game, you get copious samples of his tested “about me” statements and headlines and guidelines on photos. You also get direct instruction from Bravo on the forum answering his student’s questions. His forum also has a free section discussing general game.
While browsing the online game forum, I came across one of his STUDENT’S posts and saw an intriguing method. Asking for the phone number right on the first message. Bravo had tweaked the student’s message and presented a better, more alpha way of doing it. I had to try it just to see how legit his instruction was.
Lo and behold, in just the first HOUR after reading 2 of the forum threads of his online dating program I GOT 4 PHONE NUMBERS today, using just one of his STUDENT’s techniques in his forum! I am blown away. Day 1 meetup has just been set up just now with one of them and she is a hottie. (Bravo also teaches you how to read the photos for deception of weight and looks). Let me share with you this technique I used last night so you can see the quality of what’s going on in this forum.
I basically wrote out in my first message to these women (10 total that I picked):
A little banter and fluff of what I liked on her web page using her anchor words she hand delivers in her message. Then straight from Bravo’s student:
“I know how most guys on here have time to waste…
Unlike the other guys on here… I actually don’t have trouble meeting girls or getting dates.
But don’t reply to this if you just want to shoot messages back and forth.
I’ve been on this site awhile now, going on dates with girls I met here, But I don’t think the messaging has ever actually helped me get to know someone.
So instead, shoot me your number, and when I have the time we’ll chat for 10 min. and I can find out if you’re as cool as you seem.
You can see how POWERFUL the message is. And if this is the quality of stuff the students are posting on the forum, just think of the stuff bravo is producing (I did look at it and it is top notch). I’m real excited to get through much of what is on the forum now, and to tweak my Plenty of fish and ok cupid profiles.
He was asked by Style to become the resident online game expert while they were teaching together, and was eventually the go-to guru for online game at Stylelife. He studied and tested things for years, and his forum at Bravopua.com is his release of most of his best stuff, version 2.0, and he is still testing things. Those tests are being posted on the forum for their effectiveness. However the video teaching how to best build an online dating presence is gold and part of the program.
He was asked by Style to become the resident online game expert while they were teaching together.
It’s nice to have this method even stronger for me to increase my chances of finding “The one” in a sea of lonely women.
I highly recommend this site if you want a method to increase your stock in women. A profile that is well written will get women asking for you, without having to peacock, go to a club, open etc. The work is done for you if you did proper work on your profile, and Bravo keeps it real and gives you examples of what you could do.
Those of you project hollywooders, he is doing it in similar fashion. Taking the lead in the discussion, but allowing others to shine as well and getting info from his students on what techniques have worked and what hasn’t. It is a living program that won’t stop with his first few forum posts and will be added to just by experimenting and time. Go to http://bravopua.com to check his products out. Current price for lifelong access to the forum is 169.96
It’s the Nod. That nod I get from a student who finally ends years of frustration. The nod I get from a student who has had years of approach anxiety getting in his way only to see it disappear in an hour with my work. It’s the nod I get when a virgin of 28 years old looks at me and says, “That’s what I was nervous about? It’s just sex!” It’s the nod I get when a guy who has so self-hated himself for years learns to love himself. It’s the nod I get at the end of the night after a sarge session…. where the woman nods at me thanking me for winging the man she just made out with. It’s the nod I get from my students who have popped the question with the lady they had met just after bootcamp. It’s the nod I get from the divorced man who realizes his life isn’t shot to hell because he is 50 years old and has kids and his wife had an affair.
The Nod was the subject of the movie, Groove that I mentioned in my metaphorical movie list. It’s about a rave promoter and why he does it. When I work with people they become more alive. They become free. They loosen or break shackles. I could work harder in my own profession and make much more money. But the nod is energizing and fulfilling. The nod at the end of the night is the sign that I have done my healing work on someone and they can go on without me and never spend another dime on other people’s information tactics, or my own. The person who nods gets it. That they are the coolest person ever, and I am the lucky one who gets to watch them grow from that point on, male or female. It’s great to watch the world by watching one person change for the better at a time.