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My new site, http://notouchorgasm.com is dedicated to that holy grail of bedroom and phone sex techniques. The “Thinkoff” as David Shade puts it. I first learned how to use hypnotic and NLP Language 3 years ago, and was a devoted user and applicator of David Shade’s orgasm techniques using the mind. Over the years I have perfected this technique, and am glad to say I will be starting a website just dedicated to this. Ross Jeffries has also taught me many skills in signal recognition that allow me to do this.
Well my biggest excitement is my ability to bring you David Shade and Mark Cunningham’s newest project. A DVD set of hours of instruction showing you how to do this for your woman. Imagine being armed with this underground tactic of all tactics. So powerful is this orgasm technique that I had to post about choosing the right woman before posting this. The last thing you need to do is use these technique on an undesirable woman, then having her bang on your door at 3am at night when you are with a better woman because she can’t get you off of her mind because of the no touch orgasm.
The connection for the launch this product is http://masterpickupartists.com/notouchorgasm.com
You can actually go to the site now and read the copy of the sales page for the seminar itself. It was close to 1500 or more dollars to participate, and one of my wingmen Dionysus was sadly upset to be on the waiting list for the program after only 3 days of being up and sold out. Here’s why it sold out. Women were among the most eager clients to be there to teach their men the technique!
I got an email today that I just replied to. It is one of the foundational and core lectures I give to my students, but I thought I’d share here since I thought the way I replied will help many of you in the community who have this same mindset that numbers prove you are a good pua or that a good guru has to have numbers… My numbers are good. My student’s number’s are awesome. But the number of women you sleep with has both good and bad connotations as you will see in my reply below. This newfound fan wrote the following email…
From: L [name removed to preserve anonymity]
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 1:17 AM
Subject: good work!
I saw you were featured at the PUA summit, I’ve read your blog and seen you on some other websites, I really like it that you are exposing many of the sham artists in the community.
It hurts me when guys are paying money to people who can’t actually pickup.
Cool to see guys who are the real deal getting exposure.
I’m curious about your journey and where you’re at now….
How many girls have you slept with?
Are you seeing multiple girls or have you just settled into a relationship?
Cheers in advance, keep up the good work.
[name removed to preserve anonymity]
Below was my reply:
[Name removed to preserve anonymity],
Thanks for the email.
As for your question… what is your motive for asking?
Because I have a great straightforward answer on how many I’ve slept with. It’s above average but not a ridiculous “PUA” number. Because there is a zen to sleeping with women. The more “numb”ers you get, the more numb you get with women. The less you appreciate their bodies, minds, and who they are.
I notice guys who ask this question are trying to rate a pua or their own games based on “numb”ers. It’s the zen of pickup. There is no number that makes you good with women nor a number that proves your skill… so I bounce it back to you… why ask this question, and what does it mean to you that you asked it?
For example, I have a wingman who has slept with 177 women in 2 years. But he has slept with the SAME KIND OF WOMAN every time using the SAME KIND OF GAME every time. No variety, and this same woman (although in 177 different morphological variations) is NEVER someone he can settle long term with. His game is different. This is what he wants. He wants variety of pussy. But he will never see the fulfillment that comes from a long term relationship with this game. He still sees it as win-lose. Sleeping with 177 of the same type of woman gets as boring as missionary position sex every night with a woman you are married to. It’s an empty game. To me it’s lose lose. His life isn’t being fulfilled with this type of game. He just keeps repeating the same process and keeps getting the same results. Good for him. Not good for most guys.
Me: my game is based on finding the most positive women with positive energy and lifestyles that support and enhance mine. Those women are rare, and the ones I teach my students to screen for as well. I don’t only sleep/date/love with these women exclusively, don’t get me wrong. I can easily run game that gets me 177 women in 2 years just like many of my students and wingmen whom I have taught or learned from. But I have a core value that when you sleep with a woman, her negativity rubs off on your dick. So I tend to screen out for the ones I really want on the inside and outside, because what I seek is long term relationships. I don’t seek validation from women. Numbers-centric instruction just tells you that you need women to validate how good you are with women. I teach my guys to validate themselves, whether they choose one woman for the rest of their lives, 1 woman a night, or multiple-long term relationships.
Ask yourself: Did you get into pickup to get more women? Or did you get into pick up to have more CHOICE? Or both? I got into pickup to get more choice in the number of HIGH QUALITY women I sleep with or have relationships with. Why learn all these skills to sleep with 400 HOOTERS girls? How does that enhance life? I love that I have slept with lawyers, doctors, artists, rock stars, dating coaches, promoters, accountants, former housewives, hairstylists, persians, asians, caucasians, blacks, latinos, euros, cougars, college girls, hooters girls, flight attendants. I screen them for what attracts me first and what’s important to me. The last thing I want is 400 nightclub girls with no variety whatsoever. That’s empty game, and a lot of what the bullshit gurus teach. Whoopee. Look at those “numb”ers. You get so numb you don’t realize you are in just as bad a cycle as being in a bad relationship. Only this time it’s a bad relationship with yourself.
I can tell you I’ve got a social circle of 100’s of women all waiting in the wings for me. … But my mantra is to always leave them better than you found them. If these women can add more to what I’m already getting from my 2 LTR’s right now, then they get added to my life if I feel they enhance it. If not, then they wait with the hope they may get me… that way they don’t get teased into liking me only to feel worse when I go home to my wife like some puas do leaving all their opens and sarges worse off than they found them after that evening.
As far as teaching guys, I can teach either game. The one that gets a girl often or the one that gets the right girl often. Either way is fine with me, as long as the guy’s inner game is ready making the best decision. I just got a 28 year old former virgin to hand in the v card last week. I have one student who has sex exclusively with porn stars and models. I have another student who has same night sex just about every night he goes out. I have a guy who likes college girls (he’s 28) and daygames college campuses exclusively. I have many guys who screened their women so well, and they are in LTR’s with one woman and one is enough. We all know how hard it is to deal with just one. And if there is any ounce of negativity, I expose that to my students so they can make a good decision if a LTR with their choice of woman is worthwhile. I myself like doctors and lawyers and other high end professionals that you don’t usually find at bars. Most of them have extremely high senses of self esteem and positivity.
I feel I am successful with women because I am following my own definition of success. And I find out, or help cultivate, what my student defines as success with women. It’s different for everyone. And I get him there. But I get rid of the damn contradictory and unuseful frame that the number of women you sleep with validates you as a man or pua. It doesn’t. It sells bootcamps. And it still doesn’t mean you can screen out and pickup that HB10 with an HM10. (hot mind). That is a sham and just as much a fraud as the pua summit awards saying somebody is better than someone else just based on internet votes from their family and friends! 400 lays, when you have one technique that finds the same negative energy woman under you, and it’s 400 of the same woman that you don’t want, is not good game. Finding one or more women that fulfill you as a man, free of any need for validation? That’s the shit.
I will answer the second question though…
I currently am in 2 long term relationships … They allow me to sarge as well in case there are other women I am interested in, and I also have given them the freedom to meet others as well. But when you learn high level hypnotic sexual techniques, they always come back and are willing to share you… They both know everything about me and help me teach bootcamps at times.
But my best experience in pickup was an indian pediatrician who so fell in love with me and my game that she paid all expenses for a trip to hawaii to the big island so we could have sex on a volcano, next to the steam vents, so we could be one with the earth while having tantric lovemaking. Then just before getting on a helicopter to see the active lava flows, she blew me. So I’m walking around, just having a bj, on a helicopter, looking at earth’s most natural fire, after having sex on said volcano, all expenses paid by the woman, and she isn’t psycho, a stripper, a bartender, nor a waitress. She does charity work … had the finest body ever. She had the finest brain ever. Every orgasm was an exchange of our lives that I will never lose or forget. That is the experience I help my students strive for. Mutual benefit and respect, with a positive woman. We aren’t together because we live too far apart but damn. If she books two flights to some other volcano, I’m there. You may have a pua that fucks 1000 women, But out of those 1000, they never have that one golden tantric experience like I have multiple times with the women I choose. After the divorce I went through, it takes a DAMN SPECIAL WOMAN to lock me down.
Hope that answers your question, but with more of my philosophy on why number counting hurts. This isn’t pickup. I teach sexual life mastery. I just get more customers by calling myself a master pua.
Jamie Thompson is a dating coach from LA who has been doing the Female dating coach for guys thing since 2007. She was on the women’s panel of the 2010 PUA world summit and was doing some film work of different people in the community. She has a blog and I found this post very enlightening. And the great thing is it’s not just me thinking there were so many lost souls at the summit. As a female she too felt the try-hard, desperate energy of many of the instructors and students.
One of my key philosophies in teaching men is that the guy who gets along best with women is the one who gets along best without them. Ghost. Non needy. Doesn’t try hard. Doesn’t put her value above his. She gives specific examples of what I mean in her post that you can find by clicking here.
She was filming a documentary at the Summit and got several of my colleagues on film including “BigWin” from the Project Hollywood Yahoo group. Big win did great on stage when he demo’d with DJ Fuji and Psyche. In fact he blew the room away with how well he did.
Jamie’s best analysis is this:
Many guys at the PUA Summit were so fixated on getting something from the woman that they don’t pay attention to the signals she is sending them. They want to get her number, or even her validation, maybe they really want to make out or take her home and they get so focused on that, they forget reality. An example: I’m on the phone with my friend (who is there) and she is approached twice while we are talking, she politely said “I’m busy, and I’m with the summit, my boyfriend is an instructor” and 5 minutes later I heard her say “get the hell away from me, you’re making me uncomfortable” to which he said “Really? Why?” And guess what! It was by the same guy! Later we saw him awkwardly hitting on another girl and my friend ran and hid so he wouldn’t see her. Had he backed off (properly socially calibrating the situation, and respecting her signals) he wouldn’t have gotten yelled at and she wouldn’t have ran away from him later.
I try to instill/install an anti-try-hard sensor in all my students. They move too fast, they only talk to 9’s or 10’s and bomb badly, and they talk too fast before I give instruction or hypnotize them. The ones who are the worst at this are always seeking external validation rather than validating of themselves. Unfortunately Jamie sees what I see. The majority of shitty PUA training makes guys a bunch of miscalibrated monkeys or hyped up robots, and masks the confident, self-loving self that women find attractive. You can’t disguise a scared guy with gambits and tactics. They only work if you calibrate and learn the inner game at the same time.
Jamie goes on:
There is an underlying feeling of desperation and neediness I saw at the Pick-up Artist Summit. Many of the guys were desperate to get laid or validated by women in some way. This creates a scenario where what ever it is they need so bad will not come to them because they are chasing it so intently.
As you know I have trained the instructors for some of these PUA companies for the reason quoted above. They become even more desperate after spending 2,000-10,000 dollars in training and are shattered when they don’t see the same results as Mystery or the guys on the Pick Up Artist TV show, even as INSTRUCTORS. When they come to me we start at square one. “What do you like about yourself. Why did you stop doing it for pickup?”
One of my students who just lost his virginity at 28 took a year of training to pass this barrier. (And no, we bartered I did not charge). He started with one famous guru on a weekend bootcamp. The 2 other students on his bootcamp kiss closed. He didn’t. No numbers either. One weekend with me and I had a woman tell me she would have same-night-laid him if he didn’t use a gambit she had heard before.
And there IS NO SHORTCUT. You have to love yourself to do it right. So he was somewhat flabbergasted to have me focus on his artwork and lifestyle when it had nothing to do with women in our first bootcamp. It wouldn’t be until he so immersed himself in his art and drawing that he could feel attractive enough to be the man he wanted to be. He was self validated through his art career. If a woman shot him down, he is still a fucking awesome artist and nobody can take that away, no matter how harsh the shit test. That type of confidence is cultivated. It is not invented. He had all the goods to have a same night lay a year ago. But would that make him a better man who would be attractive all the time and confident in life as well as bed? No, and that is why many companies take the wrong angle on lifestyle management and dating success. This student now has the tools and self love to ensure he remains true to his self goals, and hopes he finds women/a woman who positively support that as well as blows his mind in the bedroom.
I still claim the title of mPUA even though it’s being bashed right now due to the summit. But if you are teaching people the crap that I was seeing at the summit, you AREN’t MPUA. You are a charlatan and a crook charging top dollar for ruining men’s lives. So Kudos to Jamie for getting it, and being honest and upfront about what she saw. There are a lot of gurus out there who wouldn’t be so honest after being given a spot on the stage but it needs to be said. A lot of guys in pick up are paying a lot of money for shit training.
Therefore I fully accept any and all criticism for my teaching style. In my photoreading lecture you can see I used the photoread routine to be a “buyer beware” as well, teaching the men how to tell, through their photographs, which “gurus” are truly attracting women, and which ones are just standing in a photo with beautiful women. You’d be amazed that only 5% of the gurus me and my students investigated had consistent attraction with the women they photographed with. Despite all the bashing, Mystery gets the thumbs up for having the best calibrated photos showing the most female-to-mystery attraction.
It was hilarious, after teaching my lecture, having the students come up to me with the ads that were left on some of the tables. “THIS GROUP HAS NO WOMEN INTERESTED IN THEM!” when they looked at the photos in their ads. An informed consumer is a better consumer. I was glad to help them. It was almost as if these students had become top members of PUAhate exposing some “gurus” for the bullshit artists they really are.
I’d love them to stop deceiving these guys, however it’s what keeps me coaching. I tear away all the gambit bullshit and build them up from the true foundation of their true selves.
As I stated in my talk on stage, Gurus should AT FIRST DO NO HARM. Do not pile shit tactics on a guy who has shit for self image. You have to give a coaching framework that allows for the development of self love at the same time teaching the gambits for rapid success and proof of the deservedness of that self love.
Oh, and PUAHate has a thread of jacked photos from the conference and they are HILARIOUS. And deservedly so. I was given “Oscar for Asian Faggot.” And now Ross Jeffries has PUAFRAUD.com to expose the tactics of gurus that are unethical to their students as well as their colleagues. And now there is also a website of an intern of Art of Charm exposing things as well. http://www.theartofcharmscam.com/the-art-of-charm-review-from-an-intern
Anyhow the community is going through a catharsis right now. The KTLA video is proof that buyers should beware. And many men are finding out the expensive training is not the immediate turnaround they thought it would be. There is no shortcut. It takes hard work and time in field to get good with women in a win-win situation where you aren’t “gaming” her but are calibrating a relationship with her on solid terms. If you are able to realize this, and are ready to get bottom-up training to start from a solid foundation to come up with your own method of relationship formation, maybe we should finally talk.
Kudos on a great post Jamie.
I made this pdf available to the webcast of the pua summit. It was all for naught as Johnny Wolf and Vince Kelvin didn’t put me on the main stage. But here was the outline of my talk. No examples, sorry.
The youtube below has been subject to much controversy in the community. Below is my take on it.
I was a participant in the PUA World Summit and heard a few of the guys on Monday’s vip bootcamp stating how they were on KTLA tv. At first I was interested to hear how the mainstream media was taking on the PUA World Summit. “Thousands of pick up Artists.” PuhLease. more like 200 or so by my count. No official count was made but “thousands” is a huge exaggeration. Anyhow my interest turned to horror after watching this.
The news Clip and the way they clowned it just set back “The community” another 5 years.
Gay. Gay. Gay. Gay. And not in the good “show tunes” and “skin care products for me” way.
that is why you never should do anything like this, they set it up to rip on this…
Gareth Jones, Winner of Best new Blood Award PUA summit 2010:
There is so much fail in this it breaks my heart
@Mindmedia – RJ is right on one subject that the awards were a complete fraud. Although he is not right about the instructors. This video is no show of skill, rather a skit setup by the producers to make PUA’s look bad. Even if the girl liked the approach she did not respond well because of the peanut gallery. It’s a lose, lose scenario because the public is under the impression that we are sleazy and use pickup lines, which is untrue.
Jtheripper plans to do a podcast on what is known as “Black Monday.”
My take. This is terrible. I have been in game, improving my and other men’s lifestyles, and to have my hard work and their hard work cheapened like this is just out of line. The guys who participated in this piece should have been calibrated enough to know to decline for the good of the community. But here’s the mindset as you could feel the energy. “OMG I’m going to be on KTLA, I can put it on my website that I was featured there, youtube it, and then make more sales and up my reputation in pickup!!!!”
Well the tidal wave of reverse karma has occurred. Just about every guru, including one of the ones who participated, are now backtracking. I actually got to see this on Johnny Wolf’s facebook when he first posted it and asked, “Johnny? For real?” Not something I would have posted. Maybe the rattlesnake opener works where he’s teaching scuba diving much in the way a house of horrors is supposed to make a girl jump in your arms at the amusement park. (Never happens) Even the new blood guy Gareth Jones is calling it a big fail. Then to have one of the gurus called out for picking up while married. I COULD HAVE PUKED FOR MAKING US LOOK THAT BAD.
As an mPUA you calibrate all situations. And here’s your real life calibration point. THE COMMUNITY DESERVES AN APOLOGY FOR THESE ACTIONS RIGHT QUICK. AND NOT ONE OF YOU GUYS HAS STOOD UP AND APOLOGIZED FOR YOUR MISCALIBRATED ACTIONS TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY LOOK LIKE FOOLS to the mainstream. The term “Sellout” has been thrown back at me for participating in the PUA summit. This makes me start to believe these students and other puas in the community are right to call me that when the organizers decide to portray us in a negative light rather than positive while we are all celebrating our successes as a group at the summit.
Then there is the faction of ass kissers saying, “Well, it took a lot of balls and effort for them to get up there on tv.” Balls and effort would have been to be at the studio, and then to disagree to the segment because of the dancing monkey aspect.
Guys. Make this right. The response of ridicule on Bravo Pua’s facebook is very well calibrated. The reaction isn’t overreaction. We’ve already had predecessors show you how not to look like a dancing monkey, like Neil Strauss on Jimmy Kimmel, Savoy et al on Dr. Phil, Mystery on Conan. YOU MADE US LOOK LIKE DANCING MONKEYS. NOW FIX IT.
On a lighter note, a girl from Duke’s powerpoints are making the rounds. She is the modern day Nancy Friday. It’s like forbidden flowers from a Dukee. See it here: http://deadspin.com/5652280/the-full-duke-university-fuck-list-thesis-from-a-former-female-student/gallery/